“More Than Devils” — A Response to the Critics of My Devil/Satan/Serpent Word Study

By Brother Hebert

This is going to be a long series, we are just getting started, but I must ask you all to try to have an open mind, entertain the idea, see it from the perspective I’m trying to share and reveal. YOU DON’T HAVE TO ABANDON YOUR BELIEFS, DEVIL OR NOT, TO GROW IN THE SPIRITUAL MESSAGE I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU.

Did I tickle your ears for all these years with what you wanted to hear, or do you value my research and work enough to walk with me through this Study?

If anyone has any questions or would like to know MY position of what I am actually presenting from MY mouth, and not what someone else says I said, or thinks they know/understand what I am presenting, please contact ME.

ageoflaodicea@gmail.com

thinkoutsidethebeast@yahoo.com

🎙️ Why I Released the Series

Let me first make something very clear: my Word Study series on Devil, Satan, and Serpent was never intended to be a debate, attack, or rebellion against Christian Identity, EFR, Christogenea, or any of the Two-Seedline (2SL/DSCI)(whatever ‘pronoun’ you use for your) doctrines. It is simply the result of 13 years of walking one path, and 1 year of finally stepping back to re-examine every verse, every word, every pre-conditioned assumption, and every interpretation with prayer and a willingness to start from scratch if necessary.

Sometimes we need to stand in a neutral position (an elohiym-a judge), examining ALL the evidence provided. This makes me recall Daniel and Susanna: Dan 13:48  So he standing in the midst of them said, Are ye such fools, ye sons of Israel, that without examination or knowledge of the truth ye have condemned a daughter (son) of Israel?

This study is not anti-2SL. It is pro-truth.

I have not changed my beliefs about:

  • Our racial identity as the true Israelites.
  • The unchanging covenants, promises, and inheritance given to our people Yisra’el (Anglo-Saxon Isaac’s Sons).
  • The destiny of non-Israelites, mamzers, Jews (Obadiah), and the cursed seedlines of Scripture.
  • The judgments outlined in Obadiah (for the house of Esau) and the Potter’s vessels in Romans 9 (after they serve their purpose).

What has changed is my view on the existence of a literal supernatural Devil, Satan, demons, and fallen angels. These are not required to uphold our racial and covenant beliefs. The Bible’s message is richer than myths and genetic obsessions.

💔 The Reactions

Since releasing the series, I’ve been met with:

  • Open minds and encouragement from some.
  • Confusion and questions from others.
  • Total rejection and even bans from longtime brethren and groups.

I expected some pushback, but what surprised me was the level of hostility from those who once stood beside me in doctrine. I’ve been slandered, falsely accused, misrepresented—even by respected voices like Eli. I tried to communicate respectfully with the whole community and warned ahead of time. But some have chosen to go on the offensive without truly reading or listening to my work.

I’m not here to win arguments. I’m here to share what God has shown me.

 

📖 What I’ve Found

This journey led me to see these terms—devil, satan, and serpent—not as supernatural beings or seedline hybrids, but as roles and characteristics of human adversaries:

  • Devil (G1228) = slanderer, deceiver, false accuser.
  • Satan (G4567) = adversary, opposer, stumbling block.
  • Serpent (H5175) = the carnal mind, deception, worldly wisdom.

When we strip away the Hollywood and religious embellishments, what remains is a deeply consistent, symbolic message that spans Genesis to Revelation. It’s not about “destroying 2SL”—it’s about revealing more than 2SL ever offered. If anything, this study builds on those foundations and brings out deeper understanding.

 

🕊️ To My Critics

If you disagree, that’s fine. But please, at least be fair.
Don’t skim. Don’t misquote. Don’t use other’s regurgitated information articles. Don’t box me in. Don’t be like the dog returning to its vomit, or staying comfortable in what you already believe.

Remember when you were a Judeo before you believe what you believe now? Does 2SLC.I. have the monopoly on God’s Word? No.
Be like the Bereans (Acts 17:11)—examine all things.

This isn’t about who’s right. It’s about whether we’re willing to grow. I stood firmly on the 2SL foundation for 13 years. But now I see more which I am trying to SHARE with you guys. I believe Yahweh is revealing deeper mysteries to those who seek Him.

📡 To the Community

I’m not trying to change your beliefs overnight. This takes time. I wrestled for months before I could truly “see.” But the study speaks for itself. It’s packed, documented, honest. Listen with fresh ears.

You don’t need to believe in devils to believe in Jesus Christ.

You don’t need to cling to Genesis 3 myths to believe in judgment, racial identity, or Scripture’s justice.

You don’t need to believe the Jews are literal devil seed to understand their role in prophecy and history.

What you do need is discernment, a heart for truth, and the courage to grow.

 

📖 What the Study Teaches

My findings show that these terms—devil, satan, serpent—are used throughout Scripture as:

  • Symbols of human traits and behaviors (slander, opposition, deception, murder, pride).
  • Descriptions of roles, not identities—“satan” as an adversary, “devil” as a liar or accuser.
  • Warnings about our own carnal minds, religious and political corruption, and opposition to the Kingdom of God.

There is no need to imagine supernatural monsters behind the scenes. God is sovereign. The Bible is consistent. And all wickedness flows from man’s own heart (Mark 7:21–23).

My study systematically goes through every verse, every term, and organizes it in book order with definitions, historical context, Greek and Hebrew word studies, and cross-references. It’s not a knee-jerk reaction or a rant. It’s careful, thorough, and documented.

My conclusions didn’t come from just one preacher, one doctrine, or one group. I examined all sides—traditional views, alternative views, Two-Seedline and non-2SL interpretations, academic papers, hermeneutic forums, pulpit commentaries, and respected voices from both past and present. I did full word studies, traced every usage and occurrence, cross-referenced meanings, explored historical and linguistic contexts, and analyzed the literary structure and symbolic patterns of Scripture. This wasn’t about finding something that tickled my ears. I searched far and wide, high and low, in and out, with fasting, prayer, and a heart set on truth—no matter where it led.

❌ On the Unfairness of the Response

What has hurt and shocked me is how unfairly many have responded.

Instead of directly examining my work or contacting me, I’ve been:

  • Misquoted and misrepresented.
  • Lumped together with Sheldon Emry and other teachers I never claimed to follow.
  • Dismissed publicly before even being reviewed privately.
  • Silently banned or pushed out from platforms I’ve served on for years.

Let me be plain: If you haven’t read or listened to my work, you have no right to comment on it and put words in my mouth or claim to know what my study reveals.

It is scholarly dishonesty to reject or slander a study that you haven’t even taken the time to read. You don’t get to use another article, or someone else’s talking points, as your substitute for actually grappling with what I’ve written.

This isn’t just unfair—it’s cowardly. If your doctrine is so sure and unshakable, then put it to the test with open eyes and compare it with what I’m sharing. But don’t hide behind someone else’s commentary, or cherry-pick a few verses to pretend like the entire study has been addressed.

OF COURSE YOU ARE GOING TO ‘DEBUNK’ THE INFORMATION WITH WHAT YOU CURRENTLY BELIEVE!!!! I did for 13 years!! YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ACCEPT WHAT IS BEING SHOWN IF ARE NOT TRULY OPEN AND EXAMINE EACH VERSE HONESTLY AND GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE STUDY FIRST! WOULD YOU GO TO BE A JUROR IN COURT AND COME TO A VERDICT JUST BASED ON THE PERSON’S APPEARANCE OR WHAT THEY ALLEGEDLY DID? Can you give a verdict after just a small portion of the evidence was ‘gleaned over’? OF COURSE NOT. A true Israelite will examine both sides of a case before a judgment. That’s all I’m asking. I even created several ways you can absorb the info: The full study (22 episodes), a Series Summary (which I recommend listening to, it’s a Reader’s Digest Version of the WHOLE STUDY in 2 hrs), or Quick Reference Charts for each occurrence with some brief details why. I also am working on a Picture Book to show with images both the traditional/literal VS the scriptural view.

📡 Addressing Bill Finck & Christogenea

Let’s talk openly.

I knew releasing this study would cause tension. But I didn’t expect the level of reaction I received from William Finck and the Christogenea circle and GAB CI group led by Bruce. Instead of engaging with me directly, Brother Finck has chosen to take shots through posts and articles written by other preachers, as if commenting around my work somehow replaces addressing it. But at the same time accusing me of plagiarism of his work, which I had explained that early in my walk, like many sincere students, I often copied and pasted information—verses, commentaries, excerpts, and yes, even long-form writings from teachers like Bill Finck and Eli James—into my personal study notes for reference. I never claimed those as my own original teachings. I always tried to link back to original sources (I showed him hundreds of referrals from my site to his giving credit), and over time, those notes became the groundwork for my own studies. As I grew, I began adding my own observations, cross-references, and conclusions. What I publish now reflects years of compilation, study, and prayer, not plagiarism. I’m grateful for every source that helped me along the way—they were stepping stones that Yahweh used to guide me toward deeper truth.

This kind of behavior I’ve been receiving is disappointing and disingenuous.

I was part of the 2SL camp for over a decade. I promoted it, lived it, studied it. I gave it everything I had. But when I began digging into the meanings of the serpent, devil, satan, and demons, I saw something more—not less. I didn’t “go soft” or turn Judeo-Christian. I grew. I reached the edge of what 2SL could offer, and the Spirit showed me the next level.

Instead of assuming I’ve ‘gone off the rails’, why not actually examine what I’ve put forward? You’ll find it’s not soft, it’s not shallow, and it’s not meant to destroy 2SL—it’s meant to reveal the deeper meanings behind the surface symbols that 2SL often stops at.

I understand Finck’s position, and the other 2SL’ers. I’ve been in and taught that same position. But I also know when a man refuses to honestly examine what he hasn’t even read. If you won’t walk through the evidence, don’t pretend like you’ve disproved it please.

Again, what I am sharing does NOT require you to believe in devils, fallen angels, and 2SL doctrine.

🤝 To My Brothers and Sisters in CI

Many of you have asked if I’ve “left the movement.” I haven’t.

What I’ve done is remove the mystical fantasy layer that has crept into both mainstream Christianity and parts of CI. The Bible is full of symbols, metaphors, literary devices and poetic language—not because it’s fake, but because truth is deep and multi-layered.

I ask only that you listen with a Berean spirit. You don’t have to agree. Just have the decency and love to hear it before you write me off.

And remember, this isn’t about devils and demons.
This is about the Kingdom.
This is about truth.
This is about growing in wisdom and maturity, even if it means letting go of long-held assumptions.

BUT YOU DON’T HAVE TO ABANDON YOUR DEVIL AND DEMONS TO LEARN SOME MORE THAN WHAT YOU ALREADY KNOW. Or do you know everything about Scripture already?

🙏 Final Thoughts

If you’re still where I was for 13 years, I understand. I do, I really do. Believe me, I do.
I don’t expect instant change.
But I do expect honesty.
If you reject this study without reading it (at least listening to the Series Summary or each use in the Charts), that’s on you—not me. I made it simple and quick to get the overall gist for a ‘fair glance’ at each occurrence of the terms.

I’ll continue airing the episodes (23 total), then I’ll move into a deep dive on demons and unclean spirits. My plan is to eventually start over with Genesis and go book by book with this new lens of understanding.

Matthew 13:14  And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 

13:15  For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 

13:16  But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. 

13:17  For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

To those who have reached out with grace, thank you.
To those who have attacked me—may Yahweh God soften your hearts and open your eyes too.
And to all—stay in the Word, pray for discernment, and Acts 17:11 everything.

DEVIL SATAN SERPENT

https://www.thinkoutsidethebeast.com/devil-satan-serpent/

Listen to this series summary first and you will be better equipped to absorb all the info in the series and connect dots easier. Just a suggestion.

Series SUMMARY (A Reader’s Digest Version) (2hr10m) https://archive.org/download/devil-satan-serpent/DEVIL%20SATAN%20SERPENT%20Series%20SUMMARY.mp3 (You can read the summary, it’s at the very end of the document)

These are Quick Reference Charts

Serpent Chart https://www.ageoflaodicea.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/SERPENT-Chart.pdf

Devil Chart https://www.thinkoutsidethebeast.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/DEVIL-Chart-Master.pdf

Satan Chart https://www.thinkoutsidethebeast.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/SATAN-Chart.pdf

 

In Christ our King,
Brother Hebert